This is a 13 youth saddle. I cannot find a makers stamp but has the quality of an older Billy Royal. The leather is in good condition, the saddle has a few minor imperfections but tree is solid.
It will need a cleaning, I bought it around Christmas time and ended up finding a different saddle. These saddles are so hard to find, wouldn't be parting with it but it's not going to get used. Estimated weight at least 25 lbs skirt is 25 long.